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¿Casualidad o plagio?

Quizás la original portada de ayer de Marca no lo era tanto.

16 comentarios

  1. Dice ser sergio

    Arsenio, éste es un mensaje de prudencia. Como usuario habitual de 20minutos.es y con todo mi respeto respecto a la muerte de Rocio Jurado no puedo entender que el titular de portada de la web en este momento haga referencia a la tristeza de “Rocíito” como si ello fuera noticia de gran alcance. No me siento representado con este tipo de noticias con este periódico. Por favor, cuidadlo.Por supuesto que Rocío Jurado era una persona lo suficientemente conocida como para dedicarle mucha información, porque los usuarios así lo requieren, pero no os convirtáis en periodistas del corazón cutres como los que se han apostado como buitres ante la casa de esta mujer durante días. Si quisiera saber algo de “Rocíito” (es que me duele hasta escribirlo) me iria a la web de salsa rosa, no a la vuestra. Cudiad un poco los titulares y la información. Éso lo hubiera esperado del Qué¡ o del antiguo “Claro”, ésa no debe ser vuestra línea.Gracias por la atención

    30 noviembre -0001 | 00:00

  2. Dice ser Antes Rosicky, ahora Agüero

    Para plagios, el que os ha hecho a vosotros (sí sí, a vosotros) marca.es. Hoy han estrenado rediseño y el tipo de letra es exacto al vuestro, el muy muy parecido a 20minutos.es

    31 mayo 2006 | 20:18

  3. Dice ser enhiro

    Vaya pregunta retórica.Por cierto, no veo que el diseño del Marca se parezca demasiado al de 20 minutos. Y ya le hacía falta una renovación, era lo más casposo de la web.

    31 mayo 2006 | 21:02

  4. Dice ser Antes Rosicky, ahora Agüero

    Yo diría que, como mínimo, el rediseño de marca está “inspirado” en el de 20minutos.es

    31 mayo 2006 | 21:09

  5. Dice ser Johnymepeino

    En mi opinión el plagio de portada es el tema del post y no otro.En lo concerniente a exclusivas… pues sí, Periodista Digital es cada día más bueno.

    01 junio 2006 | 07:46

  6. Dice ser pepito grillo

    Arsenio, tu perioducucho se ha transformado en prensa amarilla, sensacionalista, al más puro estilo HOLA, SEMANA…Vamos, que pesaditos con la amiga Jurado

    01 junio 2006 | 09:38

  7. Dice ser ender33

    Pues la verdad no veo que la página del marca tenga nada que ver con la de 20 minutos, y mira que me dedico a esto y he visto plagios de diseño y he tenido yo mismo que hacerlos por orden de clientes.Lo siento pero no veo plagio en absoluto

    01 junio 2006 | 10:22

  8. Dice ser kiko

    RECORDEMOS EL PASADO PARA OBRAR BIEN EN EL FUTUROhttp://www.ace.ual.es/~mflopez/memoria.ppsPÁSALO

    01 junio 2006 | 11:18

  9. Dice ser Uno de tantos

    ”Periodista Digital” levantó ayer la exclusiva, pero ni Arsenio Escolar ni caspa.tv citan a la fuente.Otra vez, con esa retórica barata que tanto adora el pedante de Escolar: ¿casualidad o plagio?

    01 junio 2006 | 12:17

  10. Dice ser cuánto gil

    ————————————————”Periodista Digital” levantó ayer la exclusiva————————————————Juas!En Periodista Digital se publicó el martes a las 17:57:48En el propio blogs.ya.com/eltikitaka: 11:09En lacoladevaca.blogspot.com: 9:13En http://www.prnoticias.com: 16:01:11En http://www.lacoctelera.com/guso: antes de las 13:42Sí, era una exclusiva mundial.

    01 junio 2006 | 17:20

  11. Dice ser cale

    Terrorismo y antifranquismoPío MoaDe vez en cuando es inevitable alguna explicación personal. Mucha gente afecta a un partido como el PSOE, de muy largo y abundante historial terrorista desde 1917 al menos, insiste en motejarme a mí de terrorista o, más benévolamente, de ex terrorista, afirmando incluso la imposibilidad de que un “ex” pueda llegar a “regenerarse”. Naturalmente, no llaman ex terroristas a los dirigentes políticos de los GAL, que ahora nos gobiernan, ni dudan de la “regeneración” de varios antiguos etarras (Mario Onaindía, ejemplo típico, pero hay bastantes más: muchos de ellos se integraron en el PSOE).Algunas personas, en esta bitácora y otras, han salido en mi defensa señalando tres diferencias entre el caso de los jefes del PSOE y el mío: a) En mi caso se trató de acciones antiguas, hace treinta y más años, y contra una dictadura; en el caso del PSOE se han producido mucho más recientemente, en plena democracia, desprestigiando al estado frente a la ETA. b) En mi caso me jugaba conscientemente la vida; los jefes del PSOE daban por supuesta su impunidad. c) En mi caso estoy radicalmente en contra del terrorismo y de ningún modo justifico mis acciones juveniles; los jefes del PSOE jamás se ha retractado, y han procurado venganzas mafiosas contra quienes, como Pedro J., sacaron a la luz sus delitos.Ello es bastante justo, pero quisiera añadir un par de consideraciones.No soy pacifista, y considero legítima la violencia frente a una tiranía intolerable. Desde ese punto de vista podría justificarme con facilidad, máxime cuando los durísimos antifranquistas de después de Franco nos pintan a éste como un dictador singularmente brutal y abyecto. Cebrián, Carrillo y muchísimos más han justificado así, expresamente, los crímenes de la ETA de entonces. El mismo Savater ha creído recordar que se trataba de un régimen asesino y que la ETA luchaba contra su represión.La verdad me parece hoy muy otra. El franquismo fue una dictadura, pero estaba echando las bases reales de una convivencia democrática estable. Y nosotros no luchábamos contra la represión, sino que la exacerbábamos, de forma muy deliberada en el caso de la ETA, mediante la mecánica “acción-reacción-más acción”: golpeando y ocultándonos a fin de atraer la represión sobre la gente común y provocar así su radicalización política. Y aunque hablábamos constantemente de democracia y libertades, nadie ha sido más enemigo de ellas que los comunistas, que entonces constituíamos o vertebrábamos toda la (reducida) oposición real.No es fácil reconocer estas cosas, y menos para quienes obramos de aquel modo. Pero la convivencia democrática debe asentarse sobre la verdad. Los falsos mitos sólo pueden traer la discordia y la violencia, por muy queridos que resulten para quienes, sin haber luchado entonces, o habiendo colaborado incluso con la dictadura, se han vuelto a destiempo tan “antifranquistas”.

    01 junio 2006 | 17:58

  12. Dice ser webcams gratis

    Plagio descarado

    02 junio 2006 | 11:18

  13. Dice ser Blanca

    ¿Se ha preguntado al autor de la portada si por casualidad no ha vendido su idea???QUizás el que ha hecho la portada del Marca descubrió la otra e intentó ponerse en contacto con esa persona para que le dejaran hacer la misma portada, por ser un diseño original.Así es muy fácil criticar, habrá que informarse no????

    02 junio 2006 | 15:33

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  16. Dice ser Jose manuel

    Como Don Balón, que ha plagiado sin escrúpulos a la página del periodismo joven http://www.wmfutbol.com, donde hay una sección en la chistera que se llama el sacapuntas, sacada hace un año, que Don Balón ha plagiado dandole el nombre de perlas cultivadas. Otro dinosaurio sin ideas que copia de los grandes de verdad.

    25 noviembre 2006 | 17:35

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